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Harena Rare Earths  is now in receipt of an exploitation permit for its Ampasindava ionic clay rare earths project in Madagascar. This makes it one of only a few companies with a permitted ionic clay rare earths project that's also backed by US-government funding. The project is now moving towards production, via a pilot plant, and the company will then look to finance the full-scale operation. Executive chairman Ivan Murphy joins Vox to tell us more.